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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / SOLD Star 38 ACP (38Super) die set
« Last post by z4lunch on June 29, 2018, 09:44:00 PM »
Sold and shipped




Steve here... I have an original set of Star 38 ACP marked dies for sale, with  the boxes. I am selling  them as used but they appear unused.
$250 shipped Priority mail. Paypal or  postal MO
Thank you for looking
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Star Reloaders / Re: Star-made shell plates
« Last post by FOR_Star on June 29, 2018, 04:07:41 PM »
Very interesting stuff.

So you think the tool head molds went off to China and never came back.

What other parts in the reloaders were cast?  Alum. base, crank shaft bearing, powder slide housing ??  Did Star do their own casting?
Are the raw shell plates cast, or sliced from large round stock?

I've never read Bruce mentioning the tool head molds, or any other molds.

From a machinists view, how difficult was it to cast, then machine the casting into a finished tool head?
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Star Reloaders / Re: Star-made shell plates
« Last post by Lifetyme on June 29, 2018, 01:47:03 PM »
Greetings,

A most fascinating read!!!

Too bad the tool head moulds have disappeared.

Cheers,

Dave

Hi Dave.

I didn't know those moulds had disappeared.  It was my understanding at the time that Mr. Cunningham had them.  I have heard rumors that he tried to tried to have a Chinese company make machines or parts for him.  I heard the attempt was unsuccessful but if true, that might explain the moulds being missing.

Btw, I remember asking George what type of metal was used in the casting of toolheads.  His reply was "old engine blocks."


Best regards.


Bob
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Star Reloaders / Re: Star-made shell plates
« Last post by fc60 on June 29, 2018, 12:44:18 PM »
Greetings,

A most fascinating read!!!

Too bad the tool head moulds have disappeared.

Cheers,

Dave
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Star Reloaders / Re: Star-made shell plates
« Last post by Lifetyme on June 28, 2018, 01:15:04 PM »
I have one 45 Auto Rim shell plate that is blued.  It looks to be original Star, but I have no idea if the bluing was done by Star, or at a later time.

The Dillon 223 SuperStar shell plates were blued.

Bruce Williams

Hi Bruce.

Dead thread I know but I just ran across it.  I was at the shop in San Diego on the day that Mr. Cunningham arrived to start packing up the reloader portion of Star Machine Works.  I picked up a caliber change from George and the shellplate I got was not blued.  On the table near the front of the shop sat four or five Universal machines that had just been assembled.  I don't remember any of those shellplates being blued either.  I never saw a blued shellplate until after the sale of the business.  Several months later I ordered a shellplate from Pioneer, CA and noticed the change when it is arrived.  I remember talking to Mr. Cunningham about the difference at a later date. He said it had occurred when he ordered his first batch of shellplates from a supplier that he had hired to machine parts for him


On my visit prior to this last one, I was picking up a few progressive toolheads that I had shipped to Star. I'd sent them so that they could bore and thread the taper crimp die position for me.  I remember George showing me a wooden box with rows of sizing dies that he had made and sent out for hardening locally.  He told me that the initial hardening had been inadequate and the had just come back from a second attempt.  I believe that these were the first carbide sizer dies that I saw coming from Star that were not Lifetyme.  My best recollection is that these were not marked as far as manufacturer but they were for caliber.  By this time Lifetyme was gone, Hulme case feeders were gone, the shop was out of toolheads, and the business was for sale.  We talked for a couple of hours and I opined that nobody was going to want a new Star machine without a case feeder or available spare toolheads.  George started climbing around, found the toolhead moulds, and asked me to ship him a Hulme case feeder so he could use it as a pattern.  He called a few days later and told me that he had sent the moulds out for pouring but that the business had sold so not to bother sending him a case feeder.

He told me that prior to the sale, arrangements had been made that each employee still working there would be allowed to take a Universal Progressive home.  I don't recall how many employees were left but I seem to remember the number was two.

FWIW.

Bob
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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / Re: WTS Lee Case Feeder Adapters
« Last post by rbwillnj on June 24, 2018, 11:09:50 AM »
See Revisions to the original listing.   I am now selling only the complete system with the Lee Case Feeder and Collator because Lee has discontinued the Large Pistol Case Feeder.
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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / Re: For Sale - Pyrex powder hoppers
« Last post by fc60 on June 13, 2018, 07:57:38 PM »
Greetings,

The greatest challenge with Star is that there are few fully dimensioned drawings remaining. When Bruce Williams bought the company from Pioneer, lots of tooling was supplied; but, few drawings.

Seems like "Tribal Knowledge" prevailed at Star...

So, this begins the task of Reverse Engineering the parts.

What were the original Star designers thinking?

Fortunately with the aid of thread gauges, hardness testers, microscopes and an abundance of existing spare parts a lot of reconstruction has taken place.

Oh yes, I forgot the Internet. Via the Internet, I was able to locate that weird powder hopper thread. It is not listed in any of the standard tables in the Machinery Handbook. I stumbled on it merely by accident.

Star's primary products were sprinkler heads for the Citrus farmers in California. Perhaps this is why the odd threads? Look at the Expander Plug and decapping rods for the Sizing dies. Both are 27 pitch!

Cheers,

Dave
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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / Re: For Sale - Pyrex powder hoppers
« Last post by FOR_Star on June 13, 2018, 01:51:33 PM »
The knowledge-base of this website always amazes me. :)
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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / Re: For Sale - Pyrex powder hoppers
« Last post by fc60 on June 13, 2018, 12:03:36 PM »
Greetings Dram Worx,

I found the thread specification.

https://law.resource.org/pub/us/cfr/ibr/005/sae.j476a.1961.pdf

Refer to Appendix D, Section D.6 and D.7.

The thread is a 9/16-27 Dryseal SPL-PTF, OD .5625

It involves a bit of math.

Easy to cut on a CNC lathe. More challenging on a conventional lathe.

27 NPT inserts are readily available.

Cheers,

Dave
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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / Re: WTB: MA SYSTEMS ROTO-EZE
« Last post by varmintpopper on June 12, 2018, 12:44:58 AM »
Bob
I no longer possess an "Eject Ease" or a "Roto Ease" but do have the manuals for both. Send me Your Home Address By Email and I'll mail You a copy.
Don't know if they will help much as there is not much info in them but a few drawings and pic's.

miltonetime (at sign)aol (dot) com

Good Shooting

Lindy
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